Well my fluffy is different. He is so gentle and sits when I tell him too sometimes. And I bring it for loads of walks nearly one a month. I love looking tough when I walk down the street because I am over compensating for many things in my life.

“XL dogs result of inbreeding”. Same as their owners.

Great idea! But really…. If this comes into law, how will this be enforced? There is no enforcement for dog licenses, poo littering and irritating ongoing dog barking. Additionally, I recently learned that for any action against a negligent dog owner, the garda, ISPCA and local dog warden must work in tandem. Really, how likely is this… And furthermore, if any of us are having issues with neighbour and their dog… We must lodge a complaint with the district court. What a joke… Laws born to fail… Laws that can eventually cause neighbourhood feuds.

This weekend went in the park with children and at the entrance to the playground a man was seating on the ground with a dangerous dog unmuzzled. Not only children were afraid to pass by but even adults. And absolutely NOTHING can be done in such situations and never will. In some other country maybe but never here.

Have all the laws you want, whose going to enforce? I’ll be a dog warden, it seems to be a cushy number. In common with a lot of public sector jobs, there is a job description and there is the role, which appear to be two different things.
I’m not usually in favor of bans but there is a strong case here.

We also need to ban the owners…

Beyond belief these aren’t banned. I am a dog lover, but these and others are just asking for trouble. There is complicity in inaction.

What you need is enforcement of laws for the its-the-owners-not-the-breed brigade who think the laws dont apply to them and their dog would never!! So many owners don’t/won’t get it !

All dogs must be kept on a leash and under the owners control..all dogs can inflict injury,some more then others..

Why anyone would want such dogs as ‘pets’ is beyond me, and you know you’re in trouble when getting the Police to shoot them is the only way to calm them down. They should be banned straight away, and anyone found keeping these dogs should be locked up.

What about aggressive dog behaviour of dogs barking and howling at everything and everyone? When you call the warden there is no answer ?

Extreme inbreeding of animals should be banned altogether for both pets & farm animals. It’s bad both for the animals and for the general public. Also, we have to do something serious about anti-social behaviour. Thugs now rule the streets.

I owned a staffie and he was an extremely affectionate dog, which is common for the breed. I would never leave him alone with a child though or own four of them. XL bullys seem like a really extreme version which nobody needs to own.

Never the dog ALWAYS the owner.

These dogs are psycho feckers and should be neutralised

What’s the threshold for our reactive legislation? 10 ppl mauled to death? 20? 100?

Very few dogs, barring those that serve a useful purpose, should be permitted.

Muzzling of powerful dog breeds in public is needed. Only some owners seem to do this, many I see don’t.

I threw a ball for my dog … It’s a bit extravagant I know, but it was his birthday and he looks great in a dinner jacket.

Mandatory MUZZLES for the dog’s on the list. Be a Responsible dog owner…don’t regret and suffer the consequences of a hurt child or person. Its Not worth the chance.

Why are the current laws not enforced, I see these dogs out all the time with no mussle on. If they can’t enforce ac simple law like that what chance do we have of then enforcing a ban. These are dangerous dogs and if they get hold of you there is little chance you get away with no serious life changing injuries.

Even poodles attack people unless they are properly trained by their owners. I’ve seen many larger dogs when in France on bike paths and forest areas… Dogs there are very well behaved, they do what the owner says, sit still based on hand signals. Quite a lot of dog owners also do that in Ireland which is great but there are always those who shouldn’t own dogs at all

South Dublin County Council has one dog warden. I won’t hold my breath.

All breeds should be muzzled and leashed while in public.

Euthanise dogs that are not.

Problem solved.

Nothing to discuss ban them before more people suffer

How are people able to afford to feed these monsters when they’re on the dole?

That is one ugly dog !

Small amendment should be added , any owner of any dog responsible to clean the roads,parks front of any shop.
Or implement DNA test for the sh. It ! Fines are good

Banning dogs when the current laws are not enforced is again more lip services from this government. I am lucky enough to live with a German shepard, most affectionate and at times gentle dog in the world. However he is always kept on a lead when out around others and even at home when young children are around. I understand what he is capable of and as such I keep him exercised, stimulated and engaged. If you are considering getting a dog on the restricted breed list please ensure you will have ample time to provide your dog the same. As a dog person I would like to see services such as ISPCA and local dog wardens sufficiently funded and staffed before banning certain breeds.

Instead of banning dogs, ban people who neglect or abuse animals, as this behavior is unacceptable and can lead to harm

I’m the owner of a staffie, he is licenced, micro chipped,DNA tested, insured and always on a restricted lead and muzzled when I’m out with him. It’s not rocket science,be responsible for it’s the dog that will suffer in the end.

Dangerous dog breeds should be banned and it be a criminal offence to hold a dangerous breed. There is no reason for people to own such dogs

Never see these dogs been walked in Foxrock or Dalkey.

Anyone owning a XL has one for a reason – protection. Obviously involved in some dodgy activities.

Let’s see how long it takes for our legislators to legislate.

The biggest threat to children’s safety is their parents! But of course let’s avoid that issue and ban dogs!

My Boxer was attacked on two separate occasions by two different chocolate coloured labradors one was off its lead and the other came out of its house and attacked as I was walking by. A lot of this comes down to owners and how responsible they are. Dogs should not be off leads no matter what breed they are, and should be secured in the property. There should also be a cap on how many you can own.

A month ago the govt released ads “if your dog bites someone its not your dogs fault, its yours, if your dog attacks someone its not your dogs fault, its yours, now they are blaming the dog

This gov are able to make and implement rules when it suits them so why do they need to consult anyone?.Certain dogs are a danger to society so ban them. How many more people need to be torn apart or killed before Humphries gets off her backside?

I’m sure there are very nice xl bully’s but in my own opinion they are still to close to being fighting dogs not pets. Still breeding good fighting dogs with good fighting dogs. I’m sure for years if there were any that were to nice they were killed. The killing just hasn’t been bred out of them yet

Ahhh, prime example of the wokism cancel culture at its very best. If it cant be controlled lets just ban it and im not just speaking about the xl bully but the uneducated, unelected leader of this soft country had the cheek to say that multiple types of dogs should be banned. Nah, sorry, not gonna happen

It’s not the dog breed it’s owner who hasent got a clue how to train them

It’s sad this girl was killed by a bully find out circumstances before you comdem every bully

“iTs ThE oWnEr AnD nOt ThE dOg!!!!!”

Dogs like humans are pack animals , and will always push thier boundaries.

People blaming the owners and taking responsibility are half correct. Many owners of these dogs, from my observation, tend to be less than model citizens that I would not trust with a dog but it has to be said that the breed of dog are horrifically dangerous. I have no doubt that not every Golden Retriever oowner can’t train their dogs very well but it is rare (if ever) that they savage somebody and kill them. These digs are dangerous. Some as that.

A total ban would be utterly stupid. Foolish.

We can already see, with Britain, it just drives that which is already half underground (garden shed test-tube puppy making), deeper underground.
They didn’t even allow owners a means of storing reproductive product (because that is half the reason most people own them. The cash-in-hand, off-the-books, breeding business). They could have said “register dog, collect&store semen/ova, free to sell abroad, but not in UK, then licence/surrender”.

Britain did establish one good system though – prohibiting the passing on of dogs to other persons by gift or otherwise. So criminals can’t have mammy register the dog, then take it to illegal dog fights. Nor can they intimidate anyone into taking over ownership.

Article quote:
“There is no register for Restricted Dogs in Ireland” – what sort of half-arsed mickey mouse job was that?!
Fer jaysus sakes lads.
Un-be-ducking-lievable.
That should be called the “non-restriction of unrestricted restricted dog breeds” law.

I knew something didn’t compute a few years ago when I was jumped up on and fully mouthed on the forearm, repeatedly, by a young German Shepherd and the owner didn’t apologise or see a problem with it.
Thanks to a brain injury, I hadn’t retained applied knowledge of the restrictions, much less acceptable young dog behaviour across various breeds. But instinctively knew something wasn’t ‘normal’, or ‘right’ – this wasn’t mere excusable youthful exuberance.

Now I know why – that breed should have been muzzled to begin with. Especially if the “jumping on stangers” lesson hadn’t even been learned yet.

Luckily, I have no fear of dogs. And even with full knowledge restored now, I would still have no problems with being ‘mouthed’ by a youngster. So long as that youngster **is** in training and *is* being appropriately disciplined after the act. What I have no tolerance for is feckless neglectful clueless owners who reject the fact that they *must* establish a hierarchy with their ‘domesticated WOLF’.
That they are Master.
That they and their families eat first, dogs later. Not simultaneously. And not as a result of begging.
A dog is not a bunny, for kissing and cuddling.
Nor should a dog be treated as an equal, like a cat.
A cat is both predator, and prey, like a human.
A dog (wolf) is predator, only, and the prey of none.

Perhaps the most apt article of the week on this topic, is the one in the Limerick Leader.
It is the PSI, of any creature, that should count when it comes to restrictions and bans and especially in the establishing of the “defining characters/confirmation for legislative prohibition or regulation”, rather than the squabble over whether a cross breed fits the restricted/banned breed parameters.

The Pounds Per Square Inch of bite pressure.
Surely this is the point of sole concern.
I expect the IMO and Medical Professionals would completely agree.
If it bites like a Shark, like a Lion, like a Tiger…
..then obviously it cannot co-exist with humans and lifestock in their daily/living environments.

And that’s before we touch on the probable neuro-behavioural problems of the unpredictable XL Bully psycho’ “flipswitch”.

With immediate effect, XLs should be in a *double* harness. They should be controlled at the chest, where all their muscle is, with a vest-lead harness. So that the walker can throw their entire weight to the ground behind the Bully and control pull on the chest with two hands.
This in addition to a dual muzzle-lead to turn their head towards dog walker.
And an obligation to carry pepper or citrus spray to force release of a bite.
All this should be enforceable, with National microchip registration, with immediate effect in a temporary emergency law. As a test, a trial run, from which pros and cons can be deciphered for a path towards total breed extinction in 20 years (end-of-life for this year’s pups currently in utero).

And anyway, since there is no obligation to register in Ireland, and no unified National Microchip system, how would you even find a banned, or restricted, breed in Ireland, to ban it or call it up for aggression assessment/handler training&testing or to enforce neutering&spaying/a breeding moratorium or prohibition?
Utter stupidness!
Compel registration on a National Register first.
Then discuss calling Restricted breeds up for aggression testing with Garda-ISPCA teams. Like a “licenced dog NCT”, or suspending/banning breeding, or manditory control equipment for each restricted breed (because, fyi, muzzles **cause** madness!! Muzzles should be for Sharks and Lions only. Based on PSI. And/or based on outcome of bi-annual canine NCTs)

Let’s also be clear here.
We don’t even know if Nicole Morey was an accident or a DV *murder*?
They shot the dog, without examining it’s behaviour, or having historic knowledge. Was the dog consistently triggered by all people at that entry point to the home? By women? By certain commands? By running/jogging/fast moving mammals? Or just the typical XL Bully flipswitch to psycho’ mode?

XL Bullies can be unleashed on command or control of a DV partner. For example. Not just criminals or drug dealers intimidating people.
While probably not the case with Nicole, the fact is a DV partner could train an XL to attack if 1 person is leaving the property on their own (i.e. fleeing a DV situation). A Bully could be trained to prevent a victim fleeing the property on their own, as much as they could be trained to attack people entering a property.

So if we’re gonna ban anything.
Start with who should definitely never own restricted dogs – those with a history of any form of violence or criminal aggression. Domestic violence, sexual violence, criminal record, anti-social behaviour etc. Maybe even a Psychological temperament test for possessing and controlling a lethal weapon.

A dog, like a child, will naturally manifest what it witnesses. Not just what it is ordered or told or trained or conditioned to do. The difference with a higher intelligence species – a human – is that a human can empathise with a victim and self-learn opposing (opposite) behaviours to the aggressor.

We shouldn’t be so surprised by the lackluster attitude to Restricted Dogs in Ireland.
Afterall, following a number of gun-related Famicides, the FFG Government **and Garda Harris himself**, reassured the public that there were “such” enormously restrictive protocols for gun owners, and everyone was sooo safe.

Then we get 2 incidents of people running amok with guns, **on cocaine**, in public forests ffs!
Where is the obligatory piss test and breathalyser in the local Garda Station, before the local Garda Station releases your gun to you for legitimate hunting, from the bunker buried locker under the Garda Station for all the guns of local licenced gun owners?

…just as a starting point…

Go on for ages so

They need to be banned, it’s a pity they were ever created…. I absolutely love dogs… and I can understand how heartbreaking it will be for anyone who owns one and has spent a fortune on it to be annoyed and upset especially if they look after their one and have no issues. However we can’t ignore the capacity these dogs have to kill.. they are similar to lions walking around….and very threatening for anyone walking by them. I have seen lots of young people under the age of 16 walking them and struggling to control them on the lead. I have never seen of these dogs with a muzzle. They should all be wearing muzzles when brought for a walk and should not be accompanied by a child, should be an adult with them.

Muzzle the owners (SI)

Welcome back Chief Shill Corrigan. You have been very quiet as SF tanked in the recent elections. Did your employers in Belfast order you to keep quiet on here?

Highlight bad owners and educate owners, not condemn the breed of dog .. Owners who want a restricted breed should apply for a special licence, let home checks and education be part of that process.